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		<title>by: kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-66371</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Constantine. Yes, the anti-nationalism of Kazantzakis in his account of his visit to the museum, surely did astound me. Thanks for stopping by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Constantine. Yes, the anti-nationalism of Kazantzakis in his account of his visit to the museum, surely did astound me. Thanks for stopping by.
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		<title>by: kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-66370</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Stephen, enjoyed the poem. Thanks for posting. You also bring up some interesting points, which just goes to to show what a fascinating and complicated subject this is. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, enjoyed the poem. Thanks for posting. You also bring up some interesting points, which just goes to to show what a fascinating and complicated subject this is. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.
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		<title>by: Constantine Sandis</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-66239</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I love the anti-nationaist stance. Everybody seems to want these sculptures for the wrong reasons. Still, all this nonsense about ownership aside, there remains the question of which context they would best be appreciated in. My vote is for the new Acropolis Museum (and I say this as someone who works around the corner from the BM).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the anti-nationaist stance. Everybody seems to want these sculptures for the wrong reasons. Still, all this nonsense about ownership aside, there remains the question of which context they would best be appreciated in. My vote is for the new Acropolis Museum (and I say this as someone who works around the corner from the BM).
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		<title>by: Stephen Pain</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-66049</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;Who defines the Classic Now&quot;
         For R.    
           
who defines the classic now
you have gone 
and from the declivity
of this dreary 
afternoon
I can only think
 of the academic
who had a sad proclivity
for the ancient Greek 
or Latin
whose life was lived 
inside a
musty museum, 
and who voyaged
through history, 
from his desk
to Charing Cross, 
his dusty Elysium,
a comparison 
makes your loss
greater, and at 
the column of 
Constantine,
perhaps, you would 
stand, touching
the rumilitic 
limestone, your dark
sunglasses, freshly 
washed wispy hair,
and your calves lit 
with morning sun,
and such an erotic 
account, laughing
at me, you would 
shout so this 
is poetry,
so much for the 
classic now, get
on with the modern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who defines the Classic Now&#8221;<br />
         For R.    </p>
<p>who defines the classic now<br />
you have gone<br />
and from the declivity<br />
of this dreary<br />
afternoon<br />
I can only think<br />
 of the academic<br />
who had a sad proclivity<br />
for the ancient Greek<br />
or Latin<br />
whose life was lived<br />
inside a<br />
musty museum,<br />
and who voyaged<br />
through history,<br />
from his desk<br />
to Charing Cross,<br />
his dusty Elysium,<br />
a comparison<br />
makes your loss<br />
greater, and at<br />
the column of<br />
Constantine,<br />
perhaps, you would<br />
stand, touching<br />
the rumilitic<br />
limestone, your dark<br />
sunglasses, freshly<br />
washed wispy hair,<br />
and your calves lit<br />
with morning sun,<br />
and such an erotic<br />
account, laughing<br />
at me, you would<br />
shout so this<br />
is poetry,<br />
so much for the<br />
classic now, get<br />
on with the modern.
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		<title>by: Stephen Pain</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-66046</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The idea of cultural theft is just like the problem and concept of sovereignty. I mean where does it end? Who owns what? What are the chronological parameters? Who decides them? I am sure a strong case could be made for the return of Stonehenge to Wales.

 Since we are in the EU - can't we just agree that art in Europe belongs to Europe? But where does Europe start and end?  It might be for the best to have a statute of limitations and argue that any art that has been in the possession of another country for 100 years or more, stays put. Then to make provisions for the cultural rights of the other party by declaring:
The cultural and moral rights to the following property are recognised, and Greece as the donor nation...blah blah. Maybe there could be a culture tax whereby each country pays the other an agreed amount to have the works in its permanent collection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of cultural theft is just like the problem and concept of sovereignty. I mean where does it end? Who owns what? What are the chronological parameters? Who decides them? I am sure a strong case could be made for the return of Stonehenge to Wales.</p>
<p> Since we are in the EU - can&#8217;t we just agree that art in Europe belongs to Europe? But where does Europe start and end?  It might be for the best to have a statute of limitations and argue that any art that has been in the possession of another country for 100 years or more, stays put. Then to make provisions for the cultural rights of the other party by declaring:<br />
The cultural and moral rights to the following property are recognised, and Greece as the donor nation&#8230;blah blah. Maybe there could be a culture tax whereby each country pays the other an agreed amount to have the works in its permanent collection.
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		<title>by: kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-65008</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>John, tell me more about your conservation work via email, if you have the time and desire to do so. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, tell me more about your conservation work via email, if you have the time and desire to do so. Thanks.
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		<title>by: kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-65007</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Haha, Dem, you made me laugh! Nice one :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, Dem, you made me laugh! Nice one <img src='http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: dem</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-65005</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So passion for justice is now called &quot;nationalism&quot;.

How Orwellian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So passion for justice is now called &#8220;nationalism&#8221;.</p>
<p>How Orwellian!
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		<title>by: john maroulis</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-64512</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yiassou Kathryn, we both have seen the  face of nationalism, and yes ,it is unattractive.Why are you so convinced that most proponents of restitution are nationalistic or fanatical?l know dozens of people that have expressed sophisticated arguments, some ,believe it or not,from uneducated backgrounds.You would be doing a wonderful thing using your talents to help your Patrida.l am from a similar background as you,and after 30 years of working in conservation in New York l will be spending the rest of my working life doing conservation in Greece.It will be a help to our patrimony,and hopefully will enable some artworks to reach out to the future children of the diaspora, such as you and me.l would rather err on the side of Greece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yiassou Kathryn, we both have seen the  face of nationalism, and yes ,it is unattractive.Why are you so convinced that most proponents of restitution are nationalistic or fanatical?l know dozens of people that have expressed sophisticated arguments, some ,believe it or not,from uneducated backgrounds.You would be doing a wonderful thing using your talents to help your Patrida.l am from a similar background as you,and after 30 years of working in conservation in New York l will be spending the rest of my working life doing conservation in Greece.It will be a help to our patrimony,and hopefully will enable some artworks to reach out to the future children of the diaspora, such as you and me.l would rather err on the side of Greece.
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		<title>by: kathryn</title>
		<link>http://www.kathrynkoromilas.com/keep-your-guilty-secret.html#comment-64503</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi John, thanks so much for stopping by and commenting. 

I certainly don't sanction the destruction of the Parthenon – past, present or future – and I most certainly see the legitimacy of the argument for seeing cultural artefacts in their original context. 

My argument here will hold true even if, in a decade or less, the Marbles are finally repatriated. I would then direct this same argument to the poor British; I would no doubt say that the loss of those treasures and the empty museum hall that once exhibited them also adds to the historical beauty of the Marbles, once held and loved and protected by the British Museum. 

As for being soaked in one's culture, I surely, as the daughter of migrants to Sydney, have been! I have felt the passion for home and patrida and heritage in my gut, the familiar rhythm of the Greek language when I speak it. But, what you call passion, I fear I must call nationalism (often fanaticism) and that feeling has too often scared me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, thanks so much for stopping by and commenting. </p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t sanction the destruction of the Parthenon – past, present or future – and I most certainly see the legitimacy of the argument for seeing cultural artefacts in their original context. </p>
<p>My argument here will hold true even if, in a decade or less, the Marbles are finally repatriated. I would then direct this same argument to the poor British; I would no doubt say that the loss of those treasures and the empty museum hall that once exhibited them also adds to the historical beauty of the Marbles, once held and loved and protected by the British Museum. </p>
<p>As for being soaked in one&#8217;s culture, I surely, as the daughter of migrants to Sydney, have been! I have felt the passion for home and patrida and heritage in my gut, the familiar rhythm of the Greek language when I speak it. But, what you call passion, I fear I must call nationalism (often fanaticism) and that feeling has too often scared me.
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